kusok wrote:bradmullins007 wrote:I wasn't aware that Nog and Fedor had a BJJ match. You're comparing the Nog and Fedor MMA fight to a BJJ Match. I specifically said in my earlier post I wasn't saying an MMA match. Hughes beat the shit out of Royce and controlled him with wrestling "in an MMA match" Could he have done that in a BJJ match? No. So my position on the matter is still as it was posted.
BUT one question...seeing as how Gonzaga is a BJJ legitimate blackbelt do you think Fedor could own him in a BJJ match too? REMEMBER this isn't an MMA fight...
Let me answer you this way:
BJJ and ADCC pay 50k to the winner. Fedor gets 2 mil per fight, that's like what 40 times more money... ?
BJJ and ADCC are basically amateur events. Fedor has been there, done that, got the t-shirt. he has moved on to being a pro Would Mike Tyson at his prime not beat a high school wrestler in a wrestling match just because it's a different combat art??? Mike would twist him into a pretzel!!!
Fedor is a world class MODERN (not 1990s) HW athlete, he is so much better than Royce at absolutely everything even remotely related to combat that it's not even funny.
People like you said that Fedor can't stand with tim and has to take him down. people like you said fedor can't stand with Crocop, and can't lay in nog's guard for 20 minutes... Guess what? He can. THEY can't.
Gonzaga sucks d**k. He got beat by a midget Garcia, great midget, but a midget non the less. AWESOME midget, but still a midget, ok? Gonzaga is too slow and not nearly strong enough to even control Couture's clinch! (The same Couture whom Fedor took down and subbed in 10 seconds during their grappling match)
Fedor is a world class pro on top of his game. Gonzaga can beat Fedor in a Nintendo video game MAYBE, but that's about it.
Your analogy made absolutely no sense in reference to Mike Tyson and a Highschool wrestler. Considering when you're in HighSchool you're still growing and becoming stronger. You should have said that Mike Tyson could make a pretzel of a Division 1 NCAA wrestler because I'd go as far to agree Mike might be able to maneuver a 16 year old boy around. You Fedor fans think he's God at everything. I'm waiting for the day Fedor will have to fight top competition at least 3 times a year so people will see just how invincible he really is. I've posted this before and I'll post it again in almost the exact same words. Fedor has a bad night and is fighting the likes of say a Mark Hunt (which after Barnett who else does he have left outside of the UFC he'll have to fight someone he's already fought) he wins considering his skill level is so much higher than Hunts. Now if he fights 6 times in the UFC against world class fighters and has a bad night Fedor goes home and goes back to the drawing board. What everyone fails to see is Fedor is a human being capable of having a bad outting. It's just the fact that the last few years he's not had much competition it hasn't mattered if it was going to be a bad outting he was so much more talented that he could've been on his worst day and beat these bums...not bums you say? Well besides Glass Joe (since you've referenced Tyson and Nintendo I found this an appropriate nick for AA) I mean Arlovski Fedor's competition is as follows:
Win Andrei Arlovski KO (Punch) Affliction - Day of Reckoning 1/24/2009 1 3:14 Good fighter, chin well not so good
Win Tim Sylvia Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) Affliction - Banned 7/19/2008 1 0:36 Has he won a match since being cut from the UFC?
Win Hong Man Choi Submission (Armbar) Yarennoka - New Years Eve 2007 12/31/2007 1 1:54 Freakshow? What a formidable opponent for the world's greatest P4P
Win Matt Lindland Submission (Armbar) Bodog Fight - Clash of the Nations 4/14/2007 1 2:58 Jeremy Horn ring a bell? Solid middleweight fighter at the time but remember your theory about weight being a difference. You might be onto something
Win Mark Hunt Submission (Kimura) PRIDE - Shockwave 2006 12/31/2006 1 8:16 Mark HUNT, WORLD beater and future opponent!
Win Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) PRIDE 32 - The Real Deal 10/21/2006 2 1:15 Washed up MUCH? I mean seriously MARK "fucking" Coleman? Speaking of Royce didn't Renzo tap Maurice SMith out after he beat Coleman unmercifully?
Win Wagner da Conceicao Martins Submission (Punches) PRIDE - Shockwave 2005 12/31/2005 1 0:26
Wagner De who?
Proof's in the pudding although I wouldn't disagree that Fedor isn't the best HW in MMA at this time. The fact still remains that after his Mirko fight he hasn't been in the ring with world class opponents. FLAME this post all you want to but I find it childish and irrelevant to even propose that Fedor is better at wrestling than anyone. Fedor has better BJJ than anyone. Fedor has better Sambo than anyone. Blagei Ivanov ring a bell? Fedor has better stand up than anyone. Fedor is better in the clinch than anyone. The fuckin dude is human and all of that shit isn't even possible you Fedor fans have fucking caused me to type novels disproving your ludicrous theories.